Conclusion - the man was a product of a Muslim culture with a Muslim name, as is the POTUS, but may not have been practicing, and wasn't telling anybody if he had any specific religious or political related reasons for killing anybody.
UPDATE 12/15
after searches of Amrani's house, terrorism could be excluded
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017009318_apeubelgiumattack.html
http://irandefence.net/showthread.php?p=1015932
the prison service, a national terror threat-assessment agency and the interior ministry had each been aware of his record.
He had an ANTI-TANK ROCKET???
Here's one that's not technically correct unless you count a "cultural" muslim, and I do not agree with much of his recommendations, but here it is:
http://mesopotamiawest.blogspot.com/2011/12/amrani-was-muslim.html
Daily Mail comments;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073578/Nordine-Amrani-Inside-home-crazed-Liege-killer-launched-Belgium-grenade-attack.html
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073578/Nordine-Amrani-Inside-home-crazed-Liege-killer-launched-Belgium-grenade-attack.html#ixzz1gZCHCgCn
No sign of religious extremism, but just had a hobby of collecting 9,500 weapons parts and 2,800 pot plants?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/world/europe/death-toll-rises-after-liege-belgium-attack.html?_r=1
A Belgian of Moroccan descent whose troubled history showed no sign of Islamic extremism, Mr. Amrani had been summoned to appear before the police about a case of sexual abuse at around the same time as the attack. Instead, he armed himself and mounted some kind of desperate, final lashing out.
Mr. Amrani had a record of gun and drug offenses. But he had still been able to amass a cache of weapons after his release from prison, where he served part of a 58-month sentence for possession of 9,500 weapons parts, and several complete weapons, as well as 2,800 marijuana plants
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At other points, the interview quoted the lawyers as saying that he “was crazy about weapons, but as a collector”; “he felt that he’d not had much luck in life”; he “thought he’d been unfairly treated by the justice system.”
One said his action was that of “a tormented soul who was at the end of his tether, cut off from the justice system and from society.”....fear began spreading among Belgium’s Muslims after Mr. Amrani’s Moroccan heritage was reported.
Green Footballs Condemns Geller:
Mass Murder in Belgium - Pamela Geller Instantly Assumes ‘Muslim(s)!’
UPDATE 12/15
after searches of Amrani's house, terrorism could be excluded
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017009318_apeubelgiumattack.html
another body had been found, that of a 45-year-old woman, in a shed where Amrani grew cannabis close to his home.Liege Prosecutor Daniele Reynders said, after searches of Amrani's house, terrorism could be excluded. "It was a cleaning lady. This is how she met him yesterday morning," she said. "She dies, shot with a bullet in the head."
You can toss a grenade, mass killing and it's not terrorism??
http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/tag/nordine-armani/Robert Spencer Attempts to Falsely Link Belgian Attacker to Islam, Based Solely on His Muslamic Sounding Name
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There is no denying the uptick in right-wing terrorism in Europe, Anders Breivik being the most glaring example of this violence.
http://irandefence.net/showthread.php?p=1015932
the prison service, a national terror threat-assessment agency and the interior ministry had each been aware of his record.
All told, he had racked up around 20 brushes with Belgian law enforcement, an official source told AFP.
In September 2008 he was thrown behind bars for 58 months when police uncovered a weapons arsenal in his home.
They foung 10 firearms and 9,500 gun parts along with 2,800 cannabis plants, but a prison official said Amrani was granted parole in October last year.
A weapons aficionado, he was said to be able to dismantle, repair and put together all sorts of weapons but was never linked to any terrorist act or network.
Sources told AFP that the prison service, a national terror threat-assessment agency and the interior ministry had each been aware of his record.
http://www.france24.com/en/20111213-...ege-courthouse
In September 2008 he was thrown behind bars for 58 months when police uncovered a weapons arsenal in his home.
They foung 10 firearms and 9,500 gun parts along with 2,800 cannabis plants, but a prison official said Amrani was granted parole in October last year.
A weapons aficionado, he was said to be able to dismantle, repair and put together all sorts of weapons but was never linked to any terrorist act or network.
Sources told AFP that the prison service, a national terror threat-assessment agency and the interior ministry had each been aware of his record.
http://www.france24.com/en/20111213-...ege-courthouse
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A weapons aficionado, he was said to be able to dismantle, repair and put together all sorts of weapons but was never linked to any terrorist act or network, AFP news agency reports.
When he was arrested in 2008, police found 2,800 cannabis plants he was growing in a warehouse.
They also found 10 guns and 9,500 gun parts.
The arsenal included a Law rocket launcher, an AK-47 assault rifle, a sniper rifle, a K31 rifle, a Fal assault rifle and hundreds of cartridges, Le Soir newspaper reports.
The arsenal included a Law rocket launcher, an AK-47 assault rifle, a sniper rifle, a K31 rifle, a Fal assault rifle and hundreds of cartridges, Le Soir newspaper reports.
"Amrani made silencers himself," its article notes.
"At the time, Amrani refused to say where the weapons had come from and where they were destined.
Here's one that's not technically correct unless you count a "cultural" muslim, and I do not agree with much of his recommendations, but here it is:
Amrani was a Muslim
How did this fact escape the lame-stream media; the shooter in the recent Belgian atrocity, Nordine Amrani, was a Muslim. His attack on his Christian fellow citizens was a personal Jihad.
There is one solution to this issue: ban Muslim immigration to Canada and strip Muslim religious centres of their tax exempt status, reclassifying them as either a) a political party or b) a banned terrorist organization.
Otherwise we will continue to have Muslims go crazy, buy guns and shoot us in our own cities.
Like Fort Hood, Texas or Toronto, Ontario or Montreal, Quebec orMumbai, India.
Nordine Amrani
The National Post was no better at identifying the religious nature of the crime than any other media, however the comments explained what happened.
And Amrani wasn't alone this Christmas season. Have we forgotten that days earlier, another Muslim, calmly pointed his handgun and opened fire on passing cars near Vine Street and Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood while shouting Allahu Akbar. He injured one passerby before being killed by the police. In both cases the media refused to identify the killer as Muslim terrorist.I find it reprehensible that the 'Police' and media refuse to connect the dots in these terrorist mass murders. Here is an obvious Muslim immigrant who made a living off selling drugs to and robbing and raping native Belgians. He finds and purchases grenades, machine gun and pistol; then, kills unarmed women and children. Police can't find a motive and he is not a terrorist? Obviously this poor man's tragic life is the result of Western Colonialism.
There is one solution to this issue: ban Muslim immigration to Canada and strip Muslim religious centres of their tax exempt status, reclassifying them as either a) a political party or b) a banned terrorist organization.
Otherwise we will continue to have Muslims go crazy, buy guns and shoot us in our own cities.
Like Fort Hood, Texas or Toronto, Ontario or Montreal, Quebec orMumbai, India.
Daily Mail comments;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073578/Nordine-Amrani-Inside-home-crazed-Liege-killer-launched-Belgium-grenade-attack.html
This was not a racist attack. It was simply a coincidence
that he was Muslim and decided to drive to a 'Christmas' market to attack his
victims.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073578/Nordine-Amrani-Inside-home-crazed-Liege-killer-launched-Belgium-grenade-attack.html#ixzz1gZCHCgCn
No sign of religious extremism, but just had a hobby of collecting 9,500 weapons parts and 2,800 pot plants?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/world/europe/death-toll-rises-after-liege-belgium-attack.html?_r=1
A Belgian of Moroccan descent whose troubled history showed no sign of Islamic extremism, Mr. Amrani had been summoned to appear before the police about a case of sexual abuse at around the same time as the attack. Instead, he armed himself and mounted some kind of desperate, final lashing out.
Mr. Amrani had a record of gun and drug offenses. But he had still been able to amass a cache of weapons after his release from prison, where he served part of a 58-month sentence for possession of 9,500 weapons parts, and several complete weapons, as well as 2,800 marijuana plants
...
At other points, the interview quoted the lawyers as saying that he “was crazy about weapons, but as a collector”; “he felt that he’d not had much luck in life”; he “thought he’d been unfairly treated by the justice system.”
One said his action was that of “a tormented soul who was at the end of his tether, cut off from the justice system and from society.”....fear began spreading among Belgium’s Muslims after Mr. Amrani’s Moroccan heritage was reported.
Green Footballs Condemns Geller:
Mass Murder in Belgium - Pamela Geller Instantly Assumes ‘Muslim(s)!’
Geller immediately exploits a terrible crime for her own hateful purposes
In Belgium today, a gunman with an automatic rifle opened fire on a crowded square in the city of Liege, leaving at least three people dead and scores injured. Earlier reports of more than one gunman were mistaken; it’s now confirmed that the attacker, Nordine Amrani, was acting alone.
Amrani was a known criminal with a long record, and had been summoned by police to appear this morning:
But that doesn’t stop Pamela Geller from immediately shrieking: BELGIUM GRENADE ATTACK BY MUSLIM[S]: 4 DEAD, 75 WOUNDED!!!!! - Atlas Shrugs
And Robert Spencer follows suit, as always: Belgium: Grenade attack outside courthouse linked to sentence in honor killing case.
Telegraph: says he was a Morrocan, but not a cultural arab and certainly not a terrorist or Muslim.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/8956132/Liege-attacks-Belgian-gunman-Nordine-Amrani-had-grudge-against-society.html
The Belgian, of Moroccan origin, was on parole and had been summoned to police, where he feared being arrested and being returned to prison because his car number plate had been seen at the scene of an "immoral act". Miss Amrani, the lawyer, dismissed any possible terrorist motives for the attack. "He did not feel at all Moroccan. He did not speak a word of Arabic and was not Muslim. What he said is that he felt a Belgian," she said. "He was crazy about weapons but as a collector. He felt he had not had much luck in life and felt unfairly treated by the courts. This was a 'ras-le-bol' of a tormented soul: estranged from justice, and against society."
http://www.anorak.co.uk/305222/news/daily-telegraph-washington-post-and-huffington-post-report-twitter-lie-as-fact-liege-killer-nordine-amrani-was-muslim-terrorist.html/
http://grendelreport.posterous.com/more-on-muslim-gunmen-in-belgium
Of course there is an explanation. ...After over 18,000 terrorist attacks by the followers of the religion of peace sincer 9/11, the only thing that is inexplicable and indeed shocking is the surprise of the politicians to connect the dots and that these terrorists are Muslims and they are practicing the many teachings of their prophet.
Two days earlier, another Muslim, calmly pointed his handgun and opened fire on passing cars near Vine Street and Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood while shouting Allahu Akbar. He injured one passerby before being killed by the police. In both cases the media refused to identify the killer as Muslim terrorist.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/news/hollywood-jihad-shootout-gunman-targeted-drivers-and-people-while-shouting-allahu-akbar/
Check out the video here. One of the witnesses states that the shooter was repeatedly shouting “allahu akbar” at minute 2:42.
Police: "Police have so far found no motive in the shooting."
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/belgium-grenade-attack-by-muslim-outside-main-courthouse-4-dead-dozens-wounded.html
December 13, 2011
Belgium Grenade Attack by Muslim[s]:
Amrani was a known criminal with a long record, and had been summoned by police to appear this morning:
He had previously been convicted for drug dealing and illegal arms possession, as well as for holding stolen goods and other crimes, said Daniele Reynders, the public prosecutor for Liege.So far, there’s no hint of a connection to terrorism; Amrani appears to be a common criminal. The Telegraph reports that he was never linked to any terrorist acts or networks. He was a drug dealer, not a jihadi, and there’s no indication that he was even a practicing Muslim.
In September 2008 he was thrown behind bars for 58 months when police uncovered a weapons arsenal in his home.
They found 10 firearms and 9,500 gun parts along with 2,800 cannabis plants, but a prison official said Amrani was granted early release last year.
But that doesn’t stop Pamela Geller from immediately shrieking: BELGIUM GRENADE ATTACK BY MUSLIM[S]: 4 DEAD, 75 WOUNDED!!!!! - Atlas Shrugs
And Robert Spencer follows suit, as always: Belgium: Grenade attack outside courthouse linked to sentence in honor killing case.
Telegraph: says he was a Morrocan, but not a cultural arab and certainly not a terrorist or Muslim.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/8956132/Liege-attacks-Belgian-gunman-Nordine-Amrani-had-grudge-against-society.html
The Belgian, of Moroccan origin, was on parole and had been summoned to police, where he feared being arrested and being returned to prison because his car number plate had been seen at the scene of an "immoral act". Miss Amrani, the lawyer, dismissed any possible terrorist motives for the attack. "He did not feel at all Moroccan. He did not speak a word of Arabic and was not Muslim. What he said is that he felt a Belgian," she said. "He was crazy about weapons but as a collector. He felt he had not had much luck in life and felt unfairly treated by the courts. This was a 'ras-le-bol' of a tormented soul: estranged from justice, and against society."
http://www.anorak.co.uk/305222/news/daily-telegraph-washington-post-and-huffington-post-report-twitter-lie-as-fact-liege-killer-nordine-amrani-was-muslim-terrorist.html/
Daily Telegraph, Washington Post And Huffington Post Report Twitter Lie As Fact: Liege Killer ‘Nordine Amrani Was Muslim Terrorist’NORDINE Amrani, 33, has killed five people and himself in Liege, Belgium. There is not a shred of evidence that this known criminal had any links to terrorism and militant Islam. But he did have
an Islamic name. And that’s enough for the Telegraph to report:
Another opinion:http://grendelreport.posterous.com/more-on-muslim-gunmen-in-belgium
Of course there is an explanation. ...After over 18,000 terrorist attacks by the followers of the religion of peace sincer 9/11, the only thing that is inexplicable and indeed shocking is the surprise of the politicians to connect the dots and that these terrorists are Muslims and they are practicing the many teachings of their prophet.
Two days earlier, another Muslim, calmly pointed his handgun and opened fire on passing cars near Vine Street and Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood while shouting Allahu Akbar. He injured one passerby before being killed by the police. In both cases the media refused to identify the killer as Muslim terrorist.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/news/hollywood-jihad-shootout-gunman-targeted-drivers-and-people-while-shouting-allahu-akbar/
Check out the video here. One of the witnesses states that the shooter was repeatedly shouting “allahu akbar” at minute 2:42.
Police: "Police have so far found no motive in the shooting."
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/belgium-grenade-attack-by-muslim-outside-main-courthouse-4-dead-dozens-wounded.html
December 13, 2011
Belgium Grenade Attack by Muslim[s]:
4 Dead, 75 wounded
The Telegraph notes that "the attacks are getting remarkably little coverage in the US..... The news channels are largely ignoring it in favour of the Penn State hearings, while the New York Times and Washington Post have only very small stories on their web frontpages."
Original reports said that the attack was outside the main courthouse. Subsequent news reports are saying the attack took place in a busy Christmas shopping square filled with people.
It is unclear if it was one assailant or more. Myriad news outlets report this:
Original reports said that the attack was outside the main courthouse. Subsequent news reports are saying the attack took place in a busy Christmas shopping square filled with people.
It is unclear if it was one assailant or more. Myriad news outlets report this:
"several men have thrown grenades and fired on a crowd at a bus stop in Liege, injuring dozens, including a 2-year-old girl, and leaving at least two people dead. One of the dead is a suspected attacker, who was reportedly shot dead by police, although some Belgian media reports say he committed suicide. A second suspect has been arrested, and a third remains on the loose."Jihadwatch: "Belgium grenade attack leaves at least two dead," from the Telegraph, December 13 (thanks to Mick):
Belgian news site Lesoir.be has identified the suspected attacker who died as Nordine Amrani, an author who was previously sentenced to 58 months in prison for possession of weapons and cultivation of cannabis plants.
Belgian news site HLN.be reports that three armed men escaped from the city courthouse just before the attack. Pakistan’s Karachi Post claims the attack was linked to a sentence in an honor killing case. It said the family members of Sadia Sheikh were sentenced Monday when a bomb alert went off in court. (more here)
16.27 Still confusion over whether the Liege gunman committed suicide or died by accident:
#Liege: police still inquiring if the attacker committed suicide. No confirmation still
16.09 Officials now say Amrani was on his way for police questioning when he launched the attack.
Liege Prosecutor Danielle Reynders said the attack, in which the man lobbed three grenades and opened fire, resulted in the deaths of the gunman and three other people - a 15-year-old boy, a 17-year-old girl and a 75-year-old woman. Seventy-five people were wounded. La Libre Belgique newspaper reported that a 2-year-old girl was clinging to life.
Officials say he had more grenades with him.
16.00 Officials say Liege gunman had criminal record involving guns, drugs and sex offenses
At least one person was killed and up to 47 others wounded Tuesday when up to four grenades exploded outside the main courthouse in the eastern Belgian city of Liege.The attack took place around noon on Saint-Lambert square, home to the town's courthouse and located near a busy Christmas market, Belga news agency said.
A two-year-old child is reportedly fighting for life in hospital. Six other victims are said to be gravely injured.
Shots were fired across the square by gunmen posted on the rooftop of a bakery shop, with further shots heard later from across town.
Police cordoned off the square and gave chase to the assailants, one of whom was reportedly killed. The gunmen are thought to be hiding in Liege cathedral.
The Karachi Post in Pakistan claimed that the attack was linked to a sentence in an honour killing case. It said the parents of Sadia Sheikh were sentenced on Monday when there had been a bomb alert in the court.
Gaspard Grosjean, a journalist for La Meuse Liege on the scene, told The Daily Telegraph there was panic and confusion on the streets of Liege.
"There is at least one dead and the attacker. Police are looking for another shooter. There are lots of ambulances and many casualties - at least 10 people.
"At the moment you can't move in the city centre. People are crying and in shock - they do not know what is going on. Everyone has been told to stay inside and are hiding in shops."...
Christmas.
They are coming...
Paulo
Rio
Morocco--60%
Algeria--30%
Kurdistan--10%
Amrani was released early from prison last year because his long criminal record did not include violence. He was a well known gun afficionado and at the time of his arrest had 10 firearms, 9,500 gun parts and 2,800 cannabis plants in his home. In today's attach he used a light automatic rifle and a handgun as well as grenades.
The Belgian paper Le Soir reported on Amrani's 2008 convictions at the time, writing that he had been sentenced to 29 to 58 months in prison for possession of a dozen weapons and... for the cultivation of cannabis plants. The court has also fined 11,000 euros and gave the forfeitures in the amount of 76,500 euros.
There has been no official word on how the gunman died but a number of witnesses claim that he shot himself in the head with his own revolver.
Jihad Attacks: 37
Allah Akbars: 4
Dead Bodies: 223
Critically Injured: 421
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/