This was from back in January 2012. Evidently it did not post any videos, but since Josh is gone and Steve is in jail, that pretty much leaves Alaina and Michael at the University of Minnesota to keep up the propganda campaign which is obstructing justice. This complicity in a continuing cover up effectively makes them part of the continuing story of this sad and outrageous murder plot in which Josh and Steven have only been named as persons of interest, and authorities will not name either of them as suspects, or declare Susan's case to be a murder case and not just an unexplained disappearance. Everybody knows the explanation by now.
Michael had the nerve to suggest that Susan's friends should be the ones to investigate for leads: Josh Powell's brother, Michael, wrote in his blog that he has reason to believe the West Valley Police department has overlooked viable leads, "probably intentionally, including Steven Koecher, Tim Peterson, Chuck Cox, and (Powell's estranged sister) Jennifer Graves."
This website was removed, by one report at the request of Josh soon after this new story aired, but as one commenter noted, Google says the site was so outrageous, they removed it as a violation of terms of service.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=19065471
Powell brother launches website critical of investigation, claims children are in danger
By Paul Nelson January 31st, 2012
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SALT LAKE CITY -- A new website from the family of Josh Powell is blasting the investigation into the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell. It claims investigators haven't looked into other family members closely enough and that Powell's children are in danger while they're in the care of the Cox family.
"These children were willfully ripped from the safe and loving home they lived in with their father and were intentionally placed in an abusive household," where one of the boys has been subjected to repeated abuse, the site alleges.
The site includes a string of links to documents and news stories and says the police have bungled the investigation, while child protective service workers have ignored the children's peril.
"It doesn't surprise me because they're going to try and do stuff to take the eyes off them and put it on somebody else and make themselves look a little better," said Jennifer Graves, Josh and Michael Powell's sister, who reiterated she wants the boys to continue to stay with the Coxes. "They're trying to make Josh look better so he can get his kids back, obviously."
Some of the notable comments :
Michael Powell should be careful of what he wishes for. His father looks awfully complicit in the disappearance. He could be either the catalyst if his pornography was discovered by Susan Powell or if Steven Powell decided to act out one of his sick little fantasies. He is probably an accessory before and/or after the fact.
To those who believe that Josh Powell is a poster child for those wrongly under suspicion, his actions scream guilt. Why was the bedspread missing when police first entered the house on a welfare check in case the family succumbed to carbon monoxide poisoning and Josh coincidently shows up with a brand new one when he returned to the house? {This was later found with Susan's blood}
Josh is a terrible liar and showed little interest in the search for his wife, taking off immediately and putting hundreds of miles on a rental vehicle. It is sheer dumb luck that he hasn't been arrested already.
As for other family members and acquaintances, most of them have credible alibis, unlike Josh.
To those who believe that Josh Powell is a poster child for those wrongly under suspicion, his actions scream guilt. Why was the bedspread missing when police first entered the house on a welfare check in case the family succumbed to carbon monoxide poisoning and Josh coincidently shows up with a brand new one when he returned to the house? {This was later found with Susan's blood}
Josh is a terrible liar and showed little interest in the search for his wife, taking off immediately and putting hundreds of miles on a rental vehicle. It is sheer dumb luck that he hasn't been arrested already.
As for other family members and acquaintances, most of them have credible alibis, unlike Josh.
I agree with everything you said except for Josh being a bad liar. A bad liar would have been brought to justice a long time ago.
I wonder what Michael will be in jail for in the near foreseeable future. Obviously, he is suggesting that all the evidence against his brother and father are the work of a police department. Perhaps the police should be asking what he's guilty of.
It seems to me that almost all of the people commenting on this story are:
1)Willing to crucify Josh in spite of the fact that the police have found no evidence against him.
2)Not willing to question why the police refuse to follow up on other leads of seriously check out other theories surrounding Susan's disappearance.
and,
3)They obviously care nothing about the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of the ideals of fairness and justice that our society is supposed to be based on. Because they just "know" Josh did it, they think there is not need for proof of any kind.
1)Willing to crucify Josh in spite of the fact that the police have found no evidence against him.
2)Not willing to question why the police refuse to follow up on other leads of seriously check out other theories surrounding Susan's disappearance.
and,
3)They obviously care nothing about the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of the ideals of fairness and justice that our society is supposed to be based on. Because they just "know" Josh did it, they think there is not need for proof of any kind.
Drgroovey,
How do you know police aren't following up on other leads? Are you involved in the investigation? Do you know what the WVC Detectives are doing at all times? No, you don't. Just because they're not announcing every single thing they do does not mean they aren't looking into every possible lead.
And obviously they do care about the constitution, bill of rights, and the justice system, otherwise by your logic Josh would have been arrested and sitting in a prison cell by now. They're doing things by the book, that's why Josh is free to roam around Washington.
How do you know police aren't following up on other leads? Are you involved in the investigation? Do you know what the WVC Detectives are doing at all times? No, you don't. Just because they're not announcing every single thing they do does not mean they aren't looking into every possible lead.
And obviously they do care about the constitution, bill of rights, and the justice system, otherwise by your logic Josh would have been arrested and sitting in a prison cell by now. They're doing things by the book, that's why Josh is free to roam around Washington.
Interesting thing about this is Michael Powell was at Susan Powell's residence just two days after Susan was found missing... in a car... calculate.. how long does it take a person to drive from Washington to Utah and considering Josh arrived home on Monday. Michael seen here on Tuesday.. or Wednesday. He must have dropped and ran. Michael Powell is also in Law enforcement CIA or something and was in the area during the investigation. Steven Powell's conduct was not surprising to his daughter she stated that it was good that he got caught. Now her brother Michael is there throwing "her" under the bus. Seems like a Family Problem and their are multiple people involved in her disappearance. Also interesting that the x wife of Steven Powell runs back to Washington to be with Josh and live in the "x"s house. Perhaps LE should look up other family, such as Steven Powell's brother, and that part of the family. Interesting how Michael Powell again brings up Steven Koecher. Who went missing in another state. The only thing that Steven Koecher and Susan Powell had in common was that they were both LDS and missing. Not unless the Powell's know a little more how Steven Kecher went missing. Perhaps Josh being unemployed or should I say very recently, (like a couple of days) employed, and had more spare time on his hands and it hasn't been accounted for. Maybe WVPD should have caught onto more? Maybe they know more than anyone thinks they know. In crimes you have to make sure that every detail is accounted for and that all of the evidence is together every stone turned over because you have to be sure to get a conviction and it has to be of the right person. Perhaps Michael is feeling the pressure of "just what they found in his fathers house"
The mans story is disputable on the night his wife went missing. Does he really think people believe him. Everyone who's followed this case knows he was involved in his wife's disappearance. All evidence points to only him. And as far as his children are concerned...they are loved and safe where they are.
If he were a real man he would take responsibly for his action. Which to this point it appears he will not.
If he were a real man he would take responsibly for his action. Which to this point it appears he will not.
@Drgroovey
Clearly the constitution is being observed as Josh Powell has not been arrested given the lack of evidence. HOWEVER, innocent until proven guilty is a legal practice-not a mandate for private decisions to avoid reaching their own conclusions. If it turns out Josh Powell is innocent I will be the first to apologize for suspecting him but until then the facts that have been made public all indicate his guilt and we have every right to suspect as much.
He leaves late on a Sunday night-alleging he and his wife 'forget' school and work are the next day. He goes camping in sub-freezing temps with the couples ONLY car. If she left she would have either had to call or email someone or she would have had to walk somewhere (unlikely at midnight). Josh alleges she ran off with some guy. Why then isn't he combing every cellphone record and computer she owned to figure out who it was she ran off with?! So far he has demonstrated ZERO effort to prove his 'theory' of her disappearance and in my opinion that is because he knows it's a lie.
Clearly the constitution is being observed as Josh Powell has not been arrested given the lack of evidence. HOWEVER, innocent until proven guilty is a legal practice-not a mandate for private decisions to avoid reaching their own conclusions. If it turns out Josh Powell is innocent I will be the first to apologize for suspecting him but until then the facts that have been made public all indicate his guilt and we have every right to suspect as much.
He leaves late on a Sunday night-alleging he and his wife 'forget' school and work are the next day. He goes camping in sub-freezing temps with the couples ONLY car. If she left she would have either had to call or email someone or she would have had to walk somewhere (unlikely at midnight). Josh alleges she ran off with some guy. Why then isn't he combing every cellphone record and computer she owned to figure out who it was she ran off with?! So far he has demonstrated ZERO effort to prove his 'theory' of her disappearance and in my opinion that is because he knows it's a lie.
@goodintentions, it's a 14 hour drive from Puyallup, Washington to Herriman, UT. I've done it twice, once on my way down to live in Utah for 13 months, and once on the way back. In winter, it might be a bit longer, at least a 2 day drive, through the passes.
I hope these continuing attempts to cause confusion and misdirect attention aren't actually fooling anyone. I would say they are pitiful, but I have no pity for them.
I agree. I hope no one is fooled by their vague, misleading verbal attacks on everyone. Example: Apparently one of the boys suffered "a disfiguring injury" and is "scarred for life" yet he leaves out the details of what happened and how bad the injury might be. I would like to say I have TONs of scars from being a mischievous boy growing up. I think those are mostly likely ridiculous, far out statements. I remember having my parents take me to the ER multiple times from horsing around with my siblings.
@theflanders
That was my thought at first too, but Michael actually did describe the injury on his website. The boy's foot went into a bot of boiling/near boiling water placed on the floor of the living room. He also describes major burns and large blisters over all the foot including between the toes.
That was my thought at first too, but Michael actually did describe the injury on his website. The boy's foot went into a bot of boiling/near boiling water placed on the floor of the living room. He also describes major burns and large blisters over all the foot including between the toes.
Ladanea, You're completely correct, these reports from WVCPD are attempting to misdirect attention from their failed investigation. I completely agree their attempts to slander and otherwise attack Josh are indeed pitiful.
Wow, these Powells are really messed up. I feel terrible for the Cox family. Eventually her body will turn up and then Josh Powell will have to answer.
Bitsko3:
So your theory of the case is that Steven Powell "brilliantly" disposed of the body and any forensic evidence, but then moronically held on to the incriminating evidence which provided the motive for killing her in the first place? So, is the man incredibly stupid or incredibly brilliant. Pick a side...either side...but not both. Steven Powell's hanging on to his sick self incriminating whatever, I don't even want to know, shows that he never made the nexus between the death of Susan Cox and his cache of crud, porn, sicko love letters whatever. Which he should have done even if he was not connected to the crime. Which proves he's an idiot. The killer doesn't do a first rate bang up job of hiding the body and then hang on to something which might be connected to the murder. What, Steven's brilliant on Tuesdays but an absolute moron on Thursdays...okay...maybe if there are separate personalities....one really brilliant and the other dumber than my shoe... just saying.
So your theory of the case is that Steven Powell "brilliantly" disposed of the body and any forensic evidence, but then moronically held on to the incriminating evidence which provided the motive for killing her in the first place? So, is the man incredibly stupid or incredibly brilliant. Pick a side...either side...but not both. Steven Powell's hanging on to his sick self incriminating whatever, I don't even want to know, shows that he never made the nexus between the death of Susan Cox and his cache of crud, porn, sicko love letters whatever. Which he should have done even if he was not connected to the crime. Which proves he's an idiot. The killer doesn't do a first rate bang up job of hiding the body and then hang on to something which might be connected to the murder. What, Steven's brilliant on Tuesdays but an absolute moron on Thursdays...okay...maybe if there are separate personalities....one really brilliant and the other dumber than my shoe... just saying.
@gflong2008: Considering Steve Powell's obsession with his fantasy about him and Susan I don't think it is far reaching to think he held on to a trophy or momento. It is usually things like this that eventually get them. What would you have thought if Steve Powell started talking about his daughter-in-law the way he did last summer at the time she first went missing? I think the strategy is working and he is sitting in jail regretting he'd opened his mouth.
After careful study of the comments made on this site, I feel it couldn't be more out in left field. The only reason Susan has not been found is Josh has not slipped up yet. Because of the extremely odd circumstances of that evening and events to follow that he has not reasonable explanation for, he remains the only genuine person of interest.
There is no genuine remorse or interest shown by him for her not being here today.
He knows...........
There is no genuine remorse or interest shown by him for her not being here today.
He knows...........
Here's a novel idea... File some charges and put someone away. My money is on a father and son. The cox family is not jeopardizing a dang thing it's all a diversion to keep the killer out of the gas chamber, so to speak. The Powell family, with Daddy dearest, should can it. Quit craving the spotlight, it's not one you want. If you Powells' are innocent why would you indulge yourself by being defensive. In my mind, innocence is usually quiet. So if you are so innocent, shut up!
To the West Valley Police solve this thing already, which would crush the spotlight they love. Josh Powell is guilty... a five year old with half the facts know it. You found Daddy Powell was a pedophile, well not you, but you know what I mean. Just end it and clear my news flashes of all the meaningless celebrity seeking attention.
To the West Valley Police solve this thing already, which would crush the spotlight they love. Josh Powell is guilty... a five year old with half the facts know it. You found Daddy Powell was a pedophile, well not you, but you know what I mean. Just end it and clear my news flashes of all the meaningless celebrity seeking attention.
You guys who think Josh did not do it are Crazy!!!! He did. He dumped her down a mine shaft alive and they will never find her!! He has done the perfet muder!!!!
Unless they learn something new and of value I wish they would stop bringing the subject up. Get it solved or put it on the shelf..
All those claiming that Josh did it. Put up or clam up. Show us the evidence. Oh wait, you can't cause the police can't either. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers. Heck even filing some charges would help, but they can't even seem to be able to do that.
If the police ever file charges I'll change my tune, but until then non-cooperation is NOT proof of guilt. For me, better money would be on the father but even that connection is still merely circumstantial.
If the police ever file charges I'll change my tune, but until then non-cooperation is NOT proof of guilt. For me, better money would be on the father but even that connection is still merely circumstantial.
I agree 100% with what you posted. It's just sad that it's buried below a bunch of other people who "know" that Josh murdered Susan. It's amazing to me how people can come to such a conclusion without any evidence that she was even hurt, let alone killed. There's absolutely ZERO evidence that this is anything other than a missing person case and I for one am appalled at how the police have handled the entire investigation. Is nobody else livid about how much money they spent last year traipsing all over three states claiming they had major announcements forthcoming and then coming up with nothing at all?
Josh Powell and his family have absolutely no credability anymore in my opinion.
No doubt Steven Powell is weird but come on HE WAS IN WASHINGTON otherwise he would have been named a person of interest or a suspect
Steven is trying to raise reasonable doubt about Josh--he is doing a fairly good job distorted as he is.
hats the name of the website ? if you know it please post it thank you !
The website has already been disabled. You can try clicking the links in the story but all I got was "This site has been disabled"
It appears Michael Powell's site has been disabled by the host. Search "4thekidzz" and you'll see that it's been removed.
My heart goes out to the Cox family. I pray for support to sustain them during the trials they are going through. I can't even imagine in my wildest dreams how I would deal with a person like Josh as a son in law and doing the things he has done. I have not seen one redeeming virtue the Powell family (Father, Josh, and now brother) has shown. If evil has a face it now looks like Josh's brother. I am the Father of four beautiful children, we have had accidents in our home, that is what happens in life. I never wished for accidents to happen but they did. To say that the Coxes meant for any harm to happen is a large stretch for the brother to claim. The day will come when the truth will come out, Justice is patient. Evil can lie, hide and hurt but in the end Justice will even things out. To the Cox family... hold on, allot of people carry your burdens in thoughts and prayers for your family.
More dirty laundry. I hope those kids are OK, I have little regard for any of the other actors in this sickening play.
Solar people, turn on a camera light and they come alive.
Solar people, turn on a camera light and they come alive.
This is such garbage, why does ksl.com dignify this ridiculous nonsense by putting it on the front page?
I cannot believe I wasted my time reading his rubbish. Most of his "Items" are news article (which .coms and news articles are NOT credible sources- ask anyone that has had an English class and has had to write an essay. (Sorry KSL no offense intended)
For those immediately slamming the Powells maybe you should actually read what Michael put on that site. He's done his research and backs up what he says with a lot more evidence than the police have been able to come up with to support their wild goose chases.
I am completely disgusted with how this entire thing has played out. The police have repeatedly lied about "leads" they were supposedly following and have wasted insane amounts of money producing absolutely nothing. Nobody has even coughed up actual evidence of the criminal charges against Steven Powell. The whole thing is just one big three ring circus with the primary victims being the kids who are being kept from their father without any actual supported legal reason.
I am completely disgusted with how this entire thing has played out. The police have repeatedly lied about "leads" they were supposedly following and have wasted insane amounts of money producing absolutely nothing. Nobody has even coughed up actual evidence of the criminal charges against Steven Powell. The whole thing is just one big three ring circus with the primary victims being the kids who are being kept from their father without any actual supported legal reason.
Well said, I agree 100%.
I appreciate the fact that Josh's brother actually presented facts and evidence to back his claims. To date, we've seen absolutely nothing evidentiary from the WVC police, yet they've had no compulsion whatsoever about smearing Josh's name through the mud without so much as a scrap of evidence.
This "investigation" is despicable and disgusting. The amount of dollars wasted following one person on flimsy grounds with absolutely zero results is shocking. Their efforts to try Josh in the press are despicable and should result in the immediate expulsion of numerous members of the WVCPD. The flimsy logic used to keep Josh's kids out of his custody (that Chuck MIGHT get released) is bordering on criminal.
Now, I'll throw a bone to the people who want to hang Josh without due process. Statistically, Josh is the most likely culprit. Additionally, his story is very odd (however, it was characterized as being perfectly within his character by several coworkers immediately after this story broke), and it's tempting to want to point the finger at someone for the sake of our own perception of safety. However, as "logical" as it may seem to want to convict Josh on nothing more than a few bizarre circumstances, we need to remember that these are not evidence, and that there are numerous instances in recent history in this state of the police flagrantly shortcutting their investigations, resulting in charges against COMPLETELY INNOCENT people, namely Roger and Pamela Mortensen, and David Bell.
Do us all a favor and withhold your judgement, at least until we see something that legitimately qualifies as evidence against someone. Speculation isn't evidence, even when it's framed in the most damning light possible.
I appreciate the fact that Josh's brother actually presented facts and evidence to back his claims. To date, we've seen absolutely nothing evidentiary from the WVC police, yet they've had no compulsion whatsoever about smearing Josh's name through the mud without so much as a scrap of evidence.
This "investigation" is despicable and disgusting. The amount of dollars wasted following one person on flimsy grounds with absolutely zero results is shocking. Their efforts to try Josh in the press are despicable and should result in the immediate expulsion of numerous members of the WVCPD. The flimsy logic used to keep Josh's kids out of his custody (that Chuck MIGHT get released) is bordering on criminal.
Now, I'll throw a bone to the people who want to hang Josh without due process. Statistically, Josh is the most likely culprit. Additionally, his story is very odd (however, it was characterized as being perfectly within his character by several coworkers immediately after this story broke), and it's tempting to want to point the finger at someone for the sake of our own perception of safety. However, as "logical" as it may seem to want to convict Josh on nothing more than a few bizarre circumstances, we need to remember that these are not evidence, and that there are numerous instances in recent history in this state of the police flagrantly shortcutting their investigations, resulting in charges against COMPLETELY INNOCENT people, namely Roger and Pamela Mortensen, and David Bell.
Do us all a favor and withhold your judgement, at least until we see something that legitimately qualifies as evidence against someone. Speculation isn't evidence, even when it's framed in the most damning light possible.
I did read his rant and 2 things that are totally wrong statements immediatly stood out. One is that WVCPD did not arrest Steven, the State of Washington did for overwhelming evidence against him. Second, the hearing that was scheduled for Jan 19th was not cancelled due to lack of evidence, but in fact was cancelled due to the horrible snow storm up there.(Everything in every court was cancelled that day.) These are just 2 of the wrong statements, that I caught in reading this. I bet that there are alot more falsehoods that he has stated as facts. This brother Michael is just as bad as his dad and brother Josh. None of the men in this family have any credibility.
I did read it, every word, and that is what I'm seeing too. How is it that we've created a culture that defies our own supposed foundational ideals as soon as we collectively or generally, think it makes us feel better? My own observations in life lead me to believe that far too often, the sort of behavior by the official authorities involved, as suggested by Michael, is simply standard operating procedure. They do it because they can. They do it because the public at large generally condones it, at least until when/if they find that sanctioned lynch mob has suddenly turned on them, something they likely would have previously never believed possible.
From my perspective go ahead, officials, and make your charges (already), and can I volunteer to be on the jury (and as much as I've long loathed jury duty)? It would be interesting to listen and objectively evaluate the real evidence involved. I'm not surprised that there are two sides to this story. That one side doesn't fit with the supposed official and/or politically correct version shouldn't be surprising, and it certainly isn't surprising to me.
From my perspective go ahead, officials, and make your charges (already), and can I volunteer to be on the jury (and as much as I've long loathed jury duty)? It would be interesting to listen and objectively evaluate the real evidence involved. I'm not surprised that there are two sides to this story. That one side doesn't fit with the supposed official and/or politically correct version shouldn't be surprising, and it certainly isn't surprising to me.
Does anyone else think this article sounds like a Jerry Springer show?
oh goodness this story will never be over with out a body conviction and death sentence I don't think that reading the news is good for me
Here we go again. More "news" but nothing of substance again. Is this "story" posted on the website for a reason, other than that it is more of nothing new?
Well I really hope that Josh Powell will take a deep look into the mirror and see himself by bars.
Very Good. It's about time we get some reality into this situation.
I'm very disappointed with the "Susan's best friend has a hunch, so let's lynch Josh" mindset. Shame on those people.
I'm very disappointed with the "Susan's best friend has a hunch, so let's lynch Josh" mindset. Shame on those people.
"These children were willfully ripped from the safe and loving home they lived in with their father... They were able to pull a lot of stuff out of that house and my dad was arrested for a very nasty crime," All validity of his argument when out the window when he tried to argue this point.
Looks like Google already took the site down:
"This site has been disabled for violations of our Terms of Service."
"This site has been disabled for violations of our Terms of Service."
I don't know what happened. Trial by media should be removed from television and newspaper. Whoever did what and wherever the body is (living or dead) is a case for the police. Relatives are under investigation on an on-going missing person case. Speculation of murder is just that, speculation. New developments and an objective investigation are hindered by what the media reports on.
Does Josh have some explaining to do? You betcha! His story, as reported by the various media outlets, leaves some pretty big gaps as to the outcome. Is there suspicion cast further because of Josh's dad's ...... proclivities? Yep.... Should the potential jury pool be clouded by this? In a decent and fair society, no.... I have long railed against the news media dwelling on the hyperbole raised by the sensationalism that the media injects into ongoing criminal cases.
What responsibility does the media play in a murder investigation? None, unless there is a danger to society, in my opinion. If there were a string of murders and or disappearances such as Susan Powell...THAT would be newsworthy. News describing what to look out for and information on what someone might do to protect themselves would be a valuable service albeit lacking some of the ratings draw that media's hype induces.
It's very sad that the news media is so entertainment oriented and we miss the important news that affects our day to day lives... Like the bills and laws being passed by the religiously oriented Utah Legislature.
Instead people sit and think of this case like it's a TV cop show. It's not (yet) and perhaps the news services would better serve if they steered away from sensationalizing such stories and spent more time informing the masses as to what the people hired to represent our interests on Capital Hill were doing.
Does Josh have some explaining to do? You betcha! His story, as reported by the various media outlets, leaves some pretty big gaps as to the outcome. Is there suspicion cast further because of Josh's dad's ...... proclivities? Yep.... Should the potential jury pool be clouded by this? In a decent and fair society, no.... I have long railed against the news media dwelling on the hyperbole raised by the sensationalism that the media injects into ongoing criminal cases.
What responsibility does the media play in a murder investigation? None, unless there is a danger to society, in my opinion. If there were a string of murders and or disappearances such as Susan Powell...THAT would be newsworthy. News describing what to look out for and information on what someone might do to protect themselves would be a valuable service albeit lacking some of the ratings draw that media's hype induces.
It's very sad that the news media is so entertainment oriented and we miss the important news that affects our day to day lives... Like the bills and laws being passed by the religiously oriented Utah Legislature.
Instead people sit and think of this case like it's a TV cop show. It's not (yet) and perhaps the news services would better serve if they steered away from sensationalizing such stories and spent more time informing the masses as to what the people hired to represent our interests on Capital Hill were doing.
People should thank Michael Powell. He shows the same brilliance as his brother and his father. He just outlined everything that is going to be thrown at the Cox's at hearing. As a legal strategy he just blew the whistle and I am sure that Cox's attorney is jumping on just what he is going to state to address the allegations.
Powell's show a consistency of saying the wrong things, not telling the truth, and fumbling all over themselves. It is what they don't say, it is what they do say.
Michael even goes so far as to throw his sister to the wolves.
People will not let Susan be forgotten and that is one thing that the Powell's are really waiting for and wanting.
Was Steven really in Washington when Susan went missing? and how did Michael get to Utah so quickly? Did WVPD botch the investigation? Things are going to come out... because someone saw something and it will come out. It might take time. My prayers are with those children. They will grow up and they will remember and they will also have to live with all of this. My prayers are with them.
Powell's show a consistency of saying the wrong things, not telling the truth, and fumbling all over themselves. It is what they don't say, it is what they do say.
Michael even goes so far as to throw his sister to the wolves.
People will not let Susan be forgotten and that is one thing that the Powell's are really waiting for and wanting.
Was Steven really in Washington when Susan went missing? and how did Michael get to Utah so quickly? Did WVPD botch the investigation? Things are going to come out... because someone saw something and it will come out. It might take time. My prayers are with those children. They will grow up and they will remember and they will also have to live with all of this. My prayers are with them.
Whenever I hear a story like this and have already decided the person is guilty, I make sure to remember the name Richard Ricci.
If you think innocent people cooperating with police have nothing to fear, think again.
Without Elizabeth Smarts cousin coming forward, and her Dad bypassing the police to talk to the media about david mitchell, we may have never seen a happy ending to that story.
That said, I think we'll see josh powell eventually being found guilty, but we need some evidence. Don't convict the guy based on being uncooperative.
If the police are ever looking at me I'll cooperate with my lawyer, and let the police do some actual investigating.
If you think innocent people cooperating with police have nothing to fear, think again.
Without Elizabeth Smarts cousin coming forward, and her Dad bypassing the police to talk to the media about david mitchell, we may have never seen a happy ending to that story.
That said, I think we'll see josh powell eventually being found guilty, but we need some evidence. Don't convict the guy based on being uncooperative.
If the police are ever looking at me I'll cooperate with my lawyer, and let the police do some actual investigating.
"LIke sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives." (Soap music playing).
I feel for Susan and her boys. What a mess this has all become. How people can live with the guilt and shame this has all caused is beyond my comprehension. It's like a room full of little children pointing fingers at each other. He did it, she hit me, he started it, no she did, blah blah. How sad.
I feel for Susan and her boys. What a mess this has all become. How people can live with the guilt and shame this has all caused is beyond my comprehension. It's like a room full of little children pointing fingers at each other. He did it, she hit me, he started it, no she did, blah blah. How sad.
The web site is no longer there. Google has taken it down.
Come on Powell family...bring on the craziness! Let the courts see just how far you'll go....
There are many missing persons cases in Utah that happened under suspicious circumstances, why does this one get so much more publicity than any other one? kind of a slap in the face to families of other missing persons. The Koecher family seems to get their best publicity everytime the Susan Powell case is mentioned.
posted 109 days ago
Come on, KSL. You don't need to help further the Powells' agenda. Just ignore them or make it a small story and stop making things harder on the innocent.
Susan is in Brasil with her lover. Get over it. People ditch thier families all the time around the world. That is why there are shows like Unsolved Mysteries and others. Josh was being a punk to her, she got in contact with this kid from St. George, and they ran off to where he served a mission. Sad deal all around...give Josh his kids back.
Your take is as plausible as anyone elses. Neither body has been found, disappeared at the same time, if nothing else Josh was probably very hard to live with and your father-in-law is a pervert. Can you blame Susan for running off. And if you know your wife has run off with another man how much time would you spend looking for her? You'd be angry and just say the heck with her and move on. Give Josh his boy's back! He's their father and the only parent they have now that their mother has run off and abondoned them.
Nice try, but if you have actually been following the Stephen Koecher case you would know that although his passport was originally missing and there was a theory that he went to Brazil, the passport has since been found and there is no evidence to show he left the country.
Further, there have been tips from people in the neighborhood where he went missing that points to suspicious people living close to where he left his car. There is also evidence that he went to that part of town for his business. It is common belief that he might have walked in on and witnessed illegal activity and was possibly killed.
There is absolutely no record, to include phone and email that shows Susan and Stephen knew each other. This is nothing but a fabrication created by Josh and his dad to focus attention away from themselves.
Further, there have been tips from people in the neighborhood where he went missing that points to suspicious people living close to where he left his car. There is also evidence that he went to that part of town for his business. It is common belief that he might have walked in on and witnessed illegal activity and was possibly killed.
There is absolutely no record, to include phone and email that shows Susan and Stephen knew each other. This is nothing but a fabrication created by Josh and his dad to focus attention away from themselves.
Either my preview post (response) got censured or keeps getting put at the end of the pending queue. In it I stated only the facts. Provable, unavoidable, facts. The truth, only the truth, and nothing but the truth, as disagreeable as it may have been.
Thankfully, after making my post, I went and read most of Mechael's webpage before it got taken down. Nothing Michael stated surprised me. I don't necessarily believe everything Michael had to say, but I have caught WVCPD in their lies in the past, so his accusations against them are very likely, it sure seems to be "standard operating procedure."
I guess either Google didn't like the site and voluntarily took it down (one reason I prefer to run my own website, I don't have to follow anyone's "Terms of Service") or the long arm of the law pressured Google into taking it down. If the latter, I suppose running your own website wouldn't help, the long arm of the law would probably get a search/seizure warrant and physically take your personal website down too.
They don't like getting caught in lies, but the truth is they do lie, have lied in the past, and I am sure they will continue to lie. And that is the truth, verifiable and undoubted. It may be unpopular to say it, and I probably will get censored again.
Thankfully, after making my post, I went and read most of Mechael's webpage before it got taken down. Nothing Michael stated surprised me. I don't necessarily believe everything Michael had to say, but I have caught WVCPD in their lies in the past, so his accusations against them are very likely, it sure seems to be "standard operating procedure."
I guess either Google didn't like the site and voluntarily took it down (one reason I prefer to run my own website, I don't have to follow anyone's "Terms of Service") or the long arm of the law pressured Google into taking it down. If the latter, I suppose running your own website wouldn't help, the long arm of the law would probably get a search/seizure warrant and physically take your personal website down too.
They don't like getting caught in lies, but the truth is they do lie, have lied in the past, and I am sure they will continue to lie. And that is the truth, verifiable and undoubted. It may be unpopular to say it, and I probably will get censored again.
REALLY! get a LIFE! We all know who and when did it...
In real life the mystery of who done it is not solved by the end of the one or two hour program. Things are not exciting all the time and long stretches of no new information are common. Is josh guilty? Probably. Will he get away with it, not a chance. He has already done harm to himself and his family. It will only get worse. There will always be people who through ignorance or stubbornness refuse to believe what is happening. Josh and those members of his family who are involved will find their efforts are in vain. I do not even care that the justice system catches them or not. The damage is done and the path they are on is unchangeable. Their suffering will fit the crime. You say judge not? I say judge wisely, we all make judgments. To not judge is to wimp out. all this speculation is entertaining but not very productive.
It's obvious why the site was taken down; when you click on the link, you get this message from Google:
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This site has been disabled for violations of our Terms of Service. If you feel this disabling was in error, please fill out our appeal form.
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